Thanks for pointing this out! I spoke to him on the phone, and hes a very nice fellow. Delphi, Indiana- In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. Anyone can post out here, and thats pretty much what happens, unfortunately. When was this? Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in Delphi . This was no accident. If so, then it would be nearly impossible to pinpoint a killers DNA or anything from those toys considering how many children may have touched them. We also agree with Leaker that the girls were lured to the site that day. 1 of 2. The group in Pennsylvania only does cold cases and delphi isnt cold according to delphi LE. Enjoying your content very much. (JBC and others unknown). There were definitely dolls at the site that day. In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had inside sources. They told us that their inside sources (plural) had all told them that there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime. So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague. It is possible that a WLFI-18 reporter spoke to someone in law enforcement before or after the press conference in order to ascertain this. Is this all true? WATCH THE DELPHI MURDERS ON FOX NATION. [19] [20] He is often referred to online by the moniker "Flannel Shirt Guy" or FSG. It could be literally anything. or redistributed. And I think that what must have happened is they have taken these leads, they have interviewed literally thousands of people. That was the Mitchell home and it was searched because it was reported that he had a gun of the same rather uncommon caliber and make as the gun used in the crime. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. Whether this is reference to a vehicle parked near the CPS building or a generic request for witnesses is unknown. How many saw Bridge Guy and when?LISTEN to the FULL PODCAST here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6KPvghETZ4AUDIBLE FREE TRIAL - https://amzn.to/2KRHO8C\rSUPPORT MINDSHOCK - https://www.paypal.me/mindshock\r-SOCIAL- \rFACEBOOK - http://facebook.com/MindshockPodcast\rTWITTER - https://twitter.com/MindshockPod\rREDDIT - https://www.reddit.com/r/mindshock\rMEDIUM - https://medium.com/@mindshock\rPATREON - https://www.patreon.com/mindshock However, the Young BG sketch was the first sketch drawn in the case and was drawn off of eyewitness accounts. Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. True Crime podcasts, which have exploded in popularity over the last decade, have been credited with impacting numerous other previously unsolved high-profile crime cases. I'm sooo thankful the witness came through. "I also want to thank all of the reporters, podcasters, and other news and social media outlets for keeping our girls' story relevant and in the public eye. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. The second statement was from an Indiana detective in another area, in this case Narcotics, who had seen crime scene photos and noted that both girls had been sexually violated with twigs, sticks, and small branches. What do we know from LE reports/statements to public or to the. Jos haluat listietoa ja haluat hallita valintojasi, napsauta Hallitse asetuksia. Thanks for coming to the site. Market data provided by Factset. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. I wonder if the witness tossed the idea around of "what if I incriminate an innocent person"? yesterday, I think it's really interesting that the police guy who's talking accidentally uses the pronoun 'she' when referring to the witness, three times. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge. (Indiana State Police). Well that's because that's where all the kids were. released during a press conference on April 22 2019. We do have Crop Protection Services here in town (recently changed name to NutriAg Solutions, and funny enough they were going to move operations over to the cps building when it was vacant and got into a lease with the town but there were to many problems with the building and it didnt pass code, they never moved in and moved into a building over on Prince William rd instead. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene. This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy). There has been some debate online as to whether the Libby's cell phone was physically recovered by law enforcement, the idea being that the video could have been pulled from an app or cloud service if the phone was missing. Investigators believe the killer of two teen girls is hiding in plain sight in the small community of Delphi, Indiana and that someone who knows the killer may be "afraid" to come forward. -Mike Patty. Horse and buggy pictured standing on the Deer Creek with the Monon High Bridge visible in the background. RELATED: Arrest made in Delphi murders of 2 teens in 2017; suspect worked at the local pharmacy, residents say. Bryant did not draw the sketch that police released in July 2017. The only reason they would be looking for that is if the crime was videotaped. Richard Allen is a pharmacy technician and married father who is accused in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail Williams and Liberty German, near an old railroad bridge in Delphi, Indiana . I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. I saw videos of the bridge and also videos of the trails, if witnesses are seeing other witnesses or even saw BG then isnt it strange that they didnt see Libby or Abby? . All arrows are in this map are abstract approximations and not intended to be taken literally. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. If there was an eye witness on the trail that day who saw BG, maybe they didn't come forward because the information also places themselves near the crime scene? On 12/8/22, the defense asked for its financial requests to be sealed so their defense strategy would not be revealed. Libbys phone, which was found with the girls at the crime scene. Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. I thought I read that the witness was on the same set of trails that day as bg. Problem is if you are posting here, youre not posting in the private group. Officials offered few new details at the press conference Monday and did not disclose how the teens were killed or the evidence against Allen. Timestamp 7:32Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, April 22 2019, 4. Subscribe to Forensic Tales podcast so you dont miss an episode! If there are several witnesses, Bryant would draw a sketch for each description. During their own two-year investigation into the case, the couple has, in addition to Kline, found that police also once served a search warrant at the home of another local man, Ron Logan, in connection with the case. The Monon High Bridge has 6 platforms jutting o. ut in an alternating pattern of left and right periodically across the bridge. I also believe that Abby and Libby were killed somewhere else. There are a number of childrens graves there, and there were dolls scattered around some of those graves. At the moment, we have no idea that the boy in the catfish photo is the same young man who was seen at the bridge that day. You should join the group if you can afford it. I have been sitting on this information for 5 1/2 weeks because I was afraid that releasing this information might make the younger suspect run, but I have decided now is the right time to release it. The total reward amount now equals $325,000. Why did we let them go out there? On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. Determining which alleged sightings were of the offender and which were of the no longer relevant individual is next to impossible with only the publicly available information. The renderings are a "ballpark estimation of what the person looks like.". or more realistically, these witnesses are scared that this murderer would come after them too. Hello. DEVELOPMENT: Delphi Police Chief receives telephone call from man with voice that sounds like suspect. Sickens me to watch people make it about lining their pockets, but you know Karna always has a way of rearing it head , Kegan Dunker is Garett Kirts good buddy. Archived post. When confusion arose after the episode's release, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources.". He did not charge her, she said. "But once Friday rolled around, that was the first time we heard the name, Richard Allen. WDRB article Families of teens, 20. I have a notebook with a lot of information I thought was important. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, to have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior that's about to occur. . The person in the sketch released April 22nd is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his, Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his, We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. I don't think it looks like BG. Now, in an interview with The U.S. Sun, ine and Kevin admitted that even they were "caught off guard" by the arrest of Richard Allen last week, who has now been charged with both of the girls' murders. "What will be the evidence against him? Great post. Whether those are the same person is not yet known, but it is possible. When she approached, offering help, the young man told her that he was waiting for his dad to pick him up. Where was fsg such that he could see the arguing couple? Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. After over five years, a man has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. It could be literally anything.". Investigators had previously released a different composite sketch that was "based on a previous witness," according to Carter. Perhaps Catfish Boy and Young BG are two different people. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. The girls disappeared Feb. 13, 2017, after going for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail. Libby's sister Kelsi responded on Twitterto questions related the new sketch saying: The podcast Best Case, Worst Case claims to have heard from their sources that the man in the July 17 sketch was arrested and cleared hence the change of suspects. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" During an emotional press conference announcing the arrest of Allen on Monday, Indiana State Police (ISP) Superintendent Doug Carter stressed that the investigation is "far from complete. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never spoken to before, helping them to garner some vital leads. The previous sketch was a composite sketch and was "an artist's composite of the information" collected by all the agencies involved in the double-murder investigation, including the FBI, said Indiana State Police Sgt. We also have zero evidence that BG used his stepsons photo to catfish Libby. I am also curious about the origin of the sketch. Mike Patty has said that on February 13, 2017 he went back to the house and collected "any Ipads or Ipods or computers or anything electronic gadgetry that I could come across to take back in" to law enforcement. Market data provided by Factset. Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. On February 22, 2011 police released an audio recording where the man is heard saying Guys Down the hill The recording is credited to Libby, who secretly recorded the suspect. Hes not even a pedophile. Law enforcement has said that the disposal sight was 0.5 miles from the end of the bridge and across the Deer Creek. Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. Yes, the detective is great! But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. Jul 17, 2017 Updated Sep 28, 2017. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never . The seemingly out-of-the-blue arrest - in a case in which law enforcement has provided so few updates in the last five and a half years - is evidence that more unexpected turns are on the horizon, say ine and Kevin. [20]. We have no idea who they may have in mind as the possible accomplice, however, the statement that the suspect is considerably younger than Mr. X adds weight to the notion that the Young BG sketch is based on a person who LE feels may have been accomplice to the crime that day. It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. For more information, please see our There were kids there before them, there were kids there during, there were kids there after. - Mike Patty, Timestamp 13:41, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 16. ", CVS customer Betty Cummings told the Indy Star, "He just blended right in. These poor girls lost their lives horrifically, why wouldn't you come forward right away. Gull set aside June 15 and June 16, if needed for a bail hearing for Allen. when Libby posted a picture on Snapchat. [10]. . Their bodies were found the following day in a wooded area a short distance from the Monon High Bridge Trail. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. Knowing that the sketches are of two different people brings up the question, why did the investigation switch focus from their first suspect to another? Just forget about him. He was never charged with any wrongdoing and later died in 2020 from Covid-19. Although the Delphi murders remained unsolved for over 3 years, the Indiana State Police department have not called their investigation a cold case. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Its simply a possibility, a theory. DELPHI, Ind. Rebecca Rosenberg is a veteran journalist and book author with a focus on crime and criminal justice. Email tips to rebecca.rosenberg@fox.com and @ReRosenberg. Abby and Libby had been enjoying a day off school, hanging out at the Delphi Historic Trails when they disappeared on Feb. 13, 2017. The sketch was drawn from an eye witness description of a man seen walking the trails the afternoon of the murders. According to public records, the CPS/DCS building referenced is: Carroll County Office of Family and Children, 6931 West 300 North,Delphi,IN46923-9134 [17]. 2017 delphi murders of 2 teenage girls moving in 'new direction,' indiana state police say The teens were reported missing on Feb. 13, 2017, after they were dropped off at the Delphi Historic . Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said both girls had been violated with foreign objects. Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves. Strongnasolabial folds and hooded eyes still present in Figure A. Thanks, SMK! In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. We age regressed his photo to age 17, which he would have been at the time of the crime, and its a perfect match. Since the homicides, Indiana Landmarks has taken ownership of the land and after planned restoration has completed it will officially be added to the Delphi Historic Trails. And maybe he's actually under witness protection from the killer without tipping him off and also keeping him away from the angry mob. DELPHI, Ind. I only (saw). But what exactly is known about the man charged with the 2017 m If you look at the 2019 press conf, Carter says parked at the CPS/DCF [Dept of Children & Families] building. On Indiana states social services website where they list addresses to Dept of Welfare locations and Child Services locations by county. Or will this be an opportunity for them to maybe rule out some of those names? Hi there! The detective had had a hard time sleeping at night because the case upset him so much. There is a POI whose mother volunteers at a church free clothing store. Law enforcement has recovered DNA from the crime scene. From 75-yards away I could see girls clothing in Deer Creek east of the bridge and knew full well that the girls where found very nearby. They reference you on Reddit all the time. Sure, its a horrible crime but this crime scene was so insane and unbelievable that it made you want to laugh out loud that someone who ever go to such deranged lengths to stage a crime scene. ", full press conference can be found on YouTube, Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file, April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, Community continues to search for missing teens, Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's families, Abigail Williams & Liberty German: 5 Fast Facts You Need toKnow. They were reported missing that night, and their lifeless bodies were found the next day in a wooded area about half a mile from the railroad bridge. Click the tweet to view the imagesat a larger size. Thought that was odd?? Now onto the match. "So when we check the phone records, the police call was about 5:20, -Becky Patty,Timestamp 29:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 7. That's beyond careless. Allen has been charged with two counts of murder and is currently being held in a state facility without bond. I mean, how many other eye colors are there, other than blue? The judge ordered Allen held without bond and sealed the probable cause affidavit and charging documents. On April 22, 2019 a sketch of the person who the Indiana State Police believe attacked Libby and Abby was released during a press conference detailing "a new direction" the investigation was taking. There may well have been a giant stuffed bear at the scene that day. Do you feel that way as well? Two days after the new sketch was given, a news bulletin was released to clarify the relationship between the two sketches: Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches. Based on my understanding through reading the case so far, there were at least 4 witnesses at around the trail that day at around the time of down the hill (slightly before or after). ine and Kevin said they were touched when relayed Carrie's message of thanks, though added: "We don't see ourselves as anything other than two journalists who have participated in the case. Allen, a 50-year-old CVS worker who has lived in Delphi for more than a decade, has pleaded not guilty to the charges. Delphi Murders Leaked textsIn the video below, a YouTube channel named Zav Girl separated these texts and posted them in a separate video. Yes, a gun was used in the crime. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. She would also have had to stage herself as well as the other girl, lay out the smiley-face sheet, hang dolls in the trees and scatter them on the ground, and somehow place a giant plush toy at the scene,. "Somebody that commits a horrific crime like this against two little girls probably has shown signs of violence in the past he didn't just all of a sudden decide to do this one day," Carter said. On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details . The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. Ughhhhhh! The Chief of Police in Delphi, Indiana (Brook L. McCain) received a telephone call regarding the murder case of child victims Abigail Williams and . Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. This quote, which was mentioned earlier, references a set of footprints leading up the the bodies when the bodies were found for the first time by volunteers. The clip is a male voice saying Down the hill. [12]. Required fields are marked *. Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Interview?) And as you will see below, we actually have five confirmations of the dolls story, three from LE and two from searchers. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on what Ive come up with this far. Just a question. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Your POI and my POI are the same person and I honestly didnt know half of what you have listed here! Francey Hakes: The police obviously know who theyre looking for. Allen appeared before Carroll County Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Diener Oct. 28 and entered a not-guilty plea. That is exactly what he said. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region's historic trails. Yes, this is third hand We are very excited to report this news. How do I log in? Footprints can casted and molded by forensic teams. I'm wondering if they're afraid that trying to explain the generation of the sketch would make the community less confident so it's easiest to attribute it to a sudden appearance of a witness. Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community. 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