The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. Do you think a knowledgeable observer like yourself could tell the difference in leather quality when they are being worn on someone elses feet (can you spot the difference in leather quality between CJ and EG when someone else is wearing them and your eyes are 6 plus feet away)? Meermin US UK Narrow. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Baker's recommended 8.5D, but I think I would have been happier with 9D. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. They also have thin rubber soles throughout, which some people like more, but is cheaper as well.. The fact is that Cheaney have one flagship store and the vast bulk of their business is on line whilst JL are paying for expensive locations and staff explains all at the end of the day its not so complicated. You must log in or register to reply here. Both these shoes are true to size, but Carminas are however more fitting and properly sized than the Meermin shoes. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. I have been wearing several pairs for ~18 years without an issue besides replacement of a couple of degraded rubber heel soles. I just don't love Rancourt's boot patterns and overall build. I like my shoes with a long point extra shiny..low like Aldos Does anyone know if English makers tend to have wider heels than their Spanish (or other continental counterparts). This is interesting my experience is the complete opposite. GC RTW are made by C&J so they are likely to be quite similar. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. I would also like to mention that apart from PS, I also read Jesper Ingevaldsson, who was featured in this article, (www.shoegazing.com) and Justin FitzPatrick (www.theshoesnobblog.com). Matty: Late reply, but noticed your comment just now. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. They claim it will still last as long and that the defects are just cosmetic, but still, it may not be what you expect. This was several years ago, so my recollection isnt as detailed. TLB also has a new line called Artista*, which is a higher level of quality than any in this article. Ive purchased a few Grenson pieces this year. I have also tried on shoes from Yanko and Septieme Largeur. My understanding is that AE is below the likes of Crocketts in terms of make, but thats based on the input of people like Jesper who know more about them than I do. I have a pair of Berwick chukkas and theyre pretty decent but they also dont feel as good to wear as the AEs (personally I wish Id spent more money on a higher quality make, but the store was out of C&J chukkas at the time). I wear 9EE in AE (65 last) and want to try carminas. JavaScript is disabled. Interesting times and personal style journey. Thanks Simon, great work as always. * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. You have aimed at a balance of smart casual, RTW / MTM / bespoke really useful and affordable; you have catered for all. It is good with athletic socks. Initially uncomfortably tight across the vamp in shell and with moderate heal slip. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'footslide_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_6',108,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-4-0');The top-grade Shell Cordovan Leather material used to make Carmina shoes is surely one of the best in the world for dress shoes. Snug in the forefoot and toebox but not tight. I converted my US size to UK and got that one, should have done 1/2 down from UK. If your size in a Viberg last is a bit snug I would consider sizing up for GYW. Not a big difference though. Interesting selection. In the same way as it is well-known that, in general, the quality control of British brands in all price ranges is better than in Spain and Italy, British shoes almost always have a very even, solid level). Meermin Ron 8E UK: Snug in every direction and noticeably narrow, but wearable with no socks. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. 55 last 9.5E: Excellent fit with thick or thin socks, this is what boot heaven feels like! Also, I dont think youve ever written about painted patina on shoes . , yet they settle for shoes at a, relatively speaking, much lower level. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. This is certainly true, and prices mentioned in this article are towards each brands respective domestic markets.. Whats interesting is that for US customers it can go both ways depending on guidelines/restrictions from the brands. Overall, Meermin shoes are great shoes, but they appear to be poorly finished when compared to Carminas. Im happy I earn enough now to not care about this market segment any longer. So, in summary, if you look at the price, most of Carmina's shoes cost 329 or 395 or $475, and for that amount of money, the range of last you get is quite good. Alden Aberdeen 9.5D: Great fit. Something to keep in mind. It's other Asian brands that are likely to become known in the West first, though. Thats the opposite advice I received on rain from someone else. Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. Spain level 2: Berwick, Sendra and Meermin. Rancourt 113 loafer: men's size 6D is pretty good Meermin Hiro derby: men's UK 4.5 wearable but the heel is . Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. I can only speak for Cheaney, but the staff were very helpful and there was a good range when I visited around 7 months ago. Really good customer service is important to me and is one of the things that keeps me going back. They initially repaired free of charge and when the heels came loose again they replaced for a shoe from their 1880 range. 1757 last 10D: Great roomy fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. 18 Last 10: Great fit. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. Im not sure who and why the person you talked with from Barker said anything else, but a quick visit to their website or just a Google will you show you that he or her were wrong. Im a student in Sweden and I have worn a couple of the brands mentioned in the article (and in the comment section) during the last couple of years. The best made, best value quality shoe on the market is Joseph Cheaney by a country mile. Own a pair of derby shoes in the last now. I started out with Allen Edmunds because they offer reasonably priced shoes (for Americans) with decent quality. Ive spent up to $2000 on a suit or sports jacket or coat on various occasions but have never spent more than $350 on a pair of shoes. I dont think it is available outside of Japan though. Any sock works but medium thickness (Darn Tough light cushion) is ideal. C&J E vs. F, does the wider shoe has the same heel fit/width than the smaller one? I believe that I am at the upper limit for this last. It wont make them extremely soft, but should help in the process. White's 50/50 9D: This is now one of my best fitting lasts. You might also care more with a dress oxford than a casual loafer. The quality difference was like night and day and Id have no hesitation recommending the Loake 1880s as a good budget shoe. They look nice but if I know Ill be in shoes the entire day and might walk a bit I do not wear them. I have a pair of MacNeil long wings made in 1977, two years before I was born, that I acquired used and had resoled. Please take a look. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thin socks preferred due to somewhat narrow toe box. Thick, high quality leather, but without the supple stretchiness that C&Js and Westons uppers both have. Also I heard that they are actually trying to improve or change things constantly. The shoes have a slim bevelled waist (stitched all the way to the heel), a close-cut heel and a leather heel stiffener. I do appreciate your recommendations to other blogs/websites/magazines as its not always easy to spot good work in the vast numbers of style websites. Theyre not as refined as the other Asian brands, but stand out for making Goodyear in the old-school way, stitching directly to the insole. So, rather than the gemming method that most modern Goodyear shoes have, where a canvas ribbing is used instead. Foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes some bowing. I have had a painted patina on several shoes see Berluti here, Dandy here, Carreducker here and G&G here. Did you ever talk to them about what is the rationale behind this strategy? Its a good time to be a consumer in this area.. Heel is a bit wider than I'd like when new but does break in. Many thanks in advance, If you want something that very versatile, I wouldnt go with burgundy. My most desired English brand is C&J. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Regarding the soles, the comment was of course a generalisation, and of course British makers use European soles in most cases, that doesnt change anything. Lets be honest here, what can you realistically expect from a 250 pair of leather shoes made in Europe, when a pair of sneakers produced under questrionable conditions in some third world country already cost as much if not more? For example, I got two new boots from the UK this week: a shell Carmina balmoral at just over $500 USD and C&J Galway 2 at just under $390 USD. As been mentioned by Simon, dont see it as a complete list of brands, its just a selection of ones to highlight, theres plenty of good brands not mentioned (and plenty of less good ones as well). The subreddit about quality footwear. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #TobaccoVintageBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #Carmina #ShellCordovanBurdeosHorweenBoots---ALL UB playlist---: ht. Spoo coming through with a great thread. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. To me, they have been 100% worth the money. Generally, more expensive suedes are the softer stuff, so it seems to me that theyd actually wear faster. Id have to say that, based on my personal experience, the C&J shops are one of the great strengths of the company. RUI 9: Great fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. **** Viberg Bobcats and Derby Shoes fit a bit larger in the same last compared to a service boot. No one see this though, its only for yourself. Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which arent as good as Spanish brands in general. Because the level is higher, and also because I wasnt that impressed with Myrqvist either, personally. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. Im sure PS readers would disagree! A bit surprised that you had the experience with Berluti, they have a pretty good reputation. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. I'm also guessing that either 9 or 9.5 in their new wide sizes would work well. I wear a US10/UK9 and opted for a UK9, on Pepe's recommendation, and the fit is spot on. Of course choice is more limited, and its more pot luck, but who doesnt love a bargain? if youre going to write mean spirited attacks on someone you shouldnt be surprised that they defend themselves and reply in kind That point has been removed until it can be proved either way. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. The next level of price is below 250. I usually just buy shoes in the 500 range when they go on sale for 200-300, but in the 300 range I really like the Austrian manufacturer Handmacher; they make shoes on traditionally boxy Viennese lasts, and they use tiny wooden nails to connect the soles to the uppers. How to measure your feet. European lasts just dont fit well as they have heels that are way too big. Luckily it did a tiny bit making it bearable, but damn they are still uncomforable I have to admit. I guess they are really strong in the marketing department indeed. Again, a big thank you to Simon and Jesper for the article. Perhaps my favorite, but I'd need more time with the boots to decide. Not sure I'd feel the same today. They can be found on many websites for less than 300( e.g. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. Is it really that costly to offer and stock a range of widths/sizes in order to ensure customers can find a comfortable shoe? He was also involved in the development of the TLB Artista range, so there is a financial relationship with all of those brands. I have a pair of Chelsea boots by Sanders, bought at John Rushtons. Simon, I really appreciate the articles lately with a focus on quality at a more approachable price point. Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. I've come to think of myself as a 10E. Very hard to break in and stiff leathers. Ive never heard of it or tried it, and probably wouldnt in the future as I say at the top of this most, this isnt my area of expertise really. Seeing an article like this is refreshing, its nice to see PS being more inclusive by discussing products which are more budget friendly. I own several of the shoes mentioned in this article (Meermin, Allen Edmonds, Loake 1880, Carmina) and if theres one thing I learned, it is that: you cant buy Gold for the price of Copper. Meermin shoes come with rubber shoe soles that are hardworn and really sturdy. Thank you for this listing Simon. 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. May have been fine with thinner socks. I once dumped a veritable fortune on a pair of bespoke Berluttis that caused me so much physical discomfort I was left with the impression they had been designed by the Gestapo. NEW Allen Edmonds Leeds 9591 8.5 E Shell Cordovan Color 8 PTB Blucher USA. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. NF Bootmaker 44: Tried these on and this was a great fit, a bit long length wise, but the boot is a smidge narrower and the waist is really tapered. You are using an out of date browser. Not a thick sock last. Also Berwick, Yanko and others. Viberg 2030E 8.5: Good to great fit, but depends on the year and the run. TLB is from Mallorca, like Carmina, but is only a few years old and is trying to gain a similar reputation. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. Thanks for the informative post. Why spend 400 retail when you can get a great pair of shoes for half that? Morjas uses corrected-grain leather, despite their claims to the contrary. Did not break in enough to be able to wear even thin socks. Meermin Hiro: 10D (9UK), I can walk miles in these in thin/medium socks but would strongly prefer more toe room. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. C&J do not run their own shops. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. Japan is the biggest market in Asia for dress shoe brands, but a lot of the cheaper shoes (below 200) are made elsewhere in Asia and just finished at home (similar to Italy). My right foot always had some heel slip even with the laces pulled very tight and a tongue pad. I am a little biased here because I have had these for longer than any other pair on this list, so they are more broken in, and the last happens to fit my foot better than any but the C&J 348 too. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. So if you wear for example UK10 in your Meermin we recommend UK9,5 in . I have covered Vass and TLB Artista before. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. Hi Simon, do you know if JM Westons shoes are at a similar level to Crockett&Jones Handgrade? Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. The US has several brands that fit into this discussion - some old, some new. I run in minimal shoes, lift in minimal shoes or barefoot, and hike a lot in zero-drop trail runners. I have dainite soled storm welted trickers penny loafers and also commando soled stows, and I cant see myself wearing them much with anything aside from jeans or super casual chinos/corduroys. Trickers 4444: A perfect fit in 8.5 with medium socks in Logger boots. D. C. D. Medium. It is certain that a great pair of Carmina shoes would last you longer than any pair of Meermin shoes today. Also I feel the toe space is a bit too narrow. Are morjas using leather or plastic heel stiffeners? As you mentioned, the C&J sole is flat and not very detailed, but the leather is thick but very supple and significantly more comfortable than any other shoe I have over the course of the day. Forest is a rounded toe, regular instep and more room across the forepart. very snug in the toes. I have to say from personal experience I found Berwick to be the most incredible value. Carmina shoes have better soles than the Meermin shoes. They are amazing shoes. Please take a look. Suede from CF Stead and rubber Victory soles. I also have a pair of Loding chelsea boots (and other Loding things) I think in the end theyre too narrow for me. About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. I was about to replace my decades old AE McAllisters with a new one, but upon inspection, the newer shoe (same model) had wonky stitching and sloppy finishing. This is particularly true in the shoe market, given there are few designer brands spending big budgets on marketing and advertising. HOK 8.5: Bad fit. I have found Robert (admittedly in sales, not specifically costumer service) to be accommodating in every respect; answering scores of questions over a months long decision making process. Yanko 915 3 eyelet derby 9.5UK: Probably more form fitting and snug than tlb or carmina (probably due to sizing down) but near perfect in shape. All Enzos were tried as oxfords and have comfortable insteps with no gap, * **Fugashin Saigon unknown wholecut last** 8UK comfortable, good instep for oxford, * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5EUK comfortable. However, I would recommend ones like TLB and Skolyx that I have had experience with. Im starting to wonder if the differential is worth it. Main point, though, is that C&J, EG etc are different enough in quality to justify their price point in USD. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? Any feedback from you on this brand. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. Ive decided to get a pair of loafers, which Id wear with flannels, chinos, dark denim and (occasionally) shorts. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. I have not personally verified it since, but I believe that I am at the mid-to-upper end of 10.5 based on other fits. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Here there the number of brands increases, particularly with start-ups. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Alden Barrie 9D: Slightly snug, still comfortable, but my least favorite Alden last so far. Berwick is very good quality and seems to be stealing some of Loakes market share in the U.K. Prices at the well known shoe store near Victoria undercut Loake. Besides, one isnt going to do something athletic in dress shoes so a relatively poor fit is not noticed most of the time. Quality control seems to be non-existent. I'll try to be fairly comprehensive In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out his buyer's guide here. Great Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mostly great fit but too much heel slippage. I just read on an Spanish forum that Meermin and Carmina used to buy together batches of leather from the same place. Take a ruler and measure between the base of the paper to the marked line. Alden Van: 10D - Good fit. Giro bike shoes: 45.5 EU - Great fit. Vass, TLB Artista, even Meccariello. Way too narrow and painful all around, last too tapered for my taste. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. men's size 6D with my thickest socks; my dream would be a size 5.5 in this last: 6D Meermin Hiro Derby: 4.5: UK: . Myrqvist, which we mentioned at the start, is one of these and uses fairly good raw materials - sourced from well-known tanneries like Du Puy in France. I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. With Meermins, you get a refined-classy style that is set to rule the modern scene. Plain black Oxfords from Churchs who are near the rail station. Probably also worth mentioning the Carlos Santos brand from Portugal in this price bracket. Crockett & Jones, Churchs, John Lobb, Joseph Cheaney etc. The Septieme Larguer felt very similar to the Andres Sendra from what I remember. Looking at the Genova last. So for example, they now only curve the waist line on the inside of their shoe, and not the outside. Fully bespoke shoes including trial pair start from about 550 depending on the exchange rate, and they offer ready to wear / MTO lines of various grades between 65 and 450. When I complained I was told The second pair is always better ! I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam so I know these companies. Looking to buy (a much much cheaper alternative to aldens ) the Berwick plain toe derbyhttps://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. It has a bigger heel and is slightly shorter than 2030, but not enough to warrant sizing up. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. But also, a lot of brands offer MTO with a different width at no extra cost, or only a small one. I have a pair of black calf oxfords from Morjas and the leather feels rather cheap: it looks like patent leather, only matte not shiny. Bought before I understood my size. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. Additional notes about feet:I was measured as 10.5D by an Allen Edmonds store associate several years ago. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. Other brands in this range include Septieme Largeur, Andres Sendra and Janko. Low instep fits me perfectly. Its also (if im not mistaken) the only brand that advertises the fact that they use full-grain leather from reputable tanneries on all their shoes (admittedly, based on the price, they probably use the cheaper cuts of leather, but from those tanneries nonetheless). People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. Red Wing 8 last 9D: Decent fit at first, fairly comfortable once broken in. Viberg 2005EE 9: (there is a D version available from MTO only) I have these in an old 2013 Sample service boot and the engineer which is what its normally found on. Herringshoes.com). Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. In terms of value I would say CJ handgrade. But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. the Meermins have four speedhooks and a pull tab, whereas the Carminas have three and forego the tab. Viberg 2040 8.5: No variable widths for this last. I had the hope it would get softer and stretch a bit. Alden Plaza 9.5D: One of best fitting lasts, feels great. But there is also some variation in what you get. Crocketts uses good quality raw materials, particularly the upper, but the make is a bit simpler. Grant Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mediocre fit, a little snugger than I'd like across the top of the foot, but a good fit everywhere else. A couple of corrections on your US list Simon. Eastman MiM Camp moc in CXL: 10.5D, took months to stretch but fit amazingly barefoot or with thin to medium thick socks now. I think calling things cost-effective when you just mean cheaper would be a needless euphemism. Cheaper shoes will often have small mistakes, such as little splits in the sole or heel stack. Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. Tanks, if you will. Noel it is precisely the point you make that has been behind my long standing decision to stay with C&J over all these years. Carmina Simpson Chelsea boot - 9.5 UK. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. In India there is Bridlen (below), which makes a very solid, classic-looking shoe. Thursday Dress last 9.5D: Quite narrow, I wear thinner socks with these. These Meermin shoes are comfortable, fashionable, trendy, and highly durable. Rancourt 115 9D: Great fit. For someone who was a first time buyer of Northampton shoes, that process was indispensable. Its just not possible.. Sizing as 10D often feels the most natural for overall volume but is usually tight in the mid-foot (not always noticeable until I've walked in the shoes for a while), sometimes toes/ball, and occasionally a bit short in the arch/flex point. Red Wing Postman: 10D, wore for a year but sold due to low volume toebox. The leather used to make Carmina shoes is better than the leather materials used to make Meermin shoes. Our builds will give about .25 size in the long run, on average. My favorite last for standing long periods. Its just the next level up. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. And its one of the few industries where youre likely to be buying direct from the manufacturer. Hi Jesper, thanks for the clarification. My 20 year old AS are still in great shape as are my relatively newer C&J I think I could tell the difference between a standard C&J and EG from a distance, though I wouldnt like to put that to the test! Their sole is often thinner compared to the English brands (eg CJ etc), which works fine during the warmer summer months. Do you think that this pair are too smart: https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, Would this pair be better suited: https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113. 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